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The Harley Non-Wave: Am I Missing Something? Hot

WaveI went on a 500 mile ride this weekend on roads that draw a lot of motorcyclists. Just as a mental exercise, I decided to take an informal tally of riders that responded back to my “biker's wave”. The results were interesting. Before you jump on me for being trivial, I know waving is a miniscule part of motorcycling, but it is a time-honored tradition.

So here was the strategy – I would initiate the wave to every passing motorcyclist. Then, to the best of my ability, I would keep track of the country of origin (or style) of the motorcycle and whether or not my wave was returned. No, I was not stopping to keep a scientific tally every time I passed another motorcyclist. However, I did keep good mental notes, and jotted them down at the next gas stop. For your information I was riding my BMW R1200GS on this trip. So here are the results:

  • Other BMW motorcycles: 7 passed / 7 waves returned
  • Ducatis: 2 passed / 2 waves returned
  • Japanese sport and sport-touring: 16 passed / 15 waves returned
  • Japanese and European dual-sports: 3 passed / 3 waves returned
  • Metric (Asian) cruisers and tourers: 6 passed / 6 waves returned
  • American (Harley) cruisers: 23 passed / 11 waves returned

So of the 34 non-American motorcycles that I passed, all but 1 returned my wave (that one may have been a newbie afraid to take a hand of the grip). Sadly, fewer than half of the Harley riders returned the gesture.

Now it must be said that I am not, and have never been, a Harley rider. However, it also must be said that I am not a Harley hater. I appreciate a nice custom Harley; and I am especially fascinated by vintage American iron. All I am asking is what is the root cause of the non-participation of the Harley riders? How different is it to ride an American twin as opposed to a Bavarian twin or British triple? Maybe I am missing something here. By the way, I may have a German surname, but I am as American as they come. Yes, I may wave more earnestly or sincerely to another BMW rider because of a mutual interest, but I will return anyone’s wave.

So what about you? I’d love to hear from riders of bikes of any brand or style. Is the venerable biker's wave now divided by some pseudo elitism? Is it now segmented into waves for Harley riders and then everyone else? From my end, I am just going to keep waving and take solace in the fact that even with the poor showing from the Harley crowd, more than half of the riders I pass will wave back.

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# Denis Dumulon 2011-03-05 14:30
I too have noticed that Harley riders are not as 'waiver friendly' to non Harley riders than other brands' riders.

I always do the 'biker waive', even to scooter riders. I have also noticed that when I ride my sportbike, fewer riders return my 'waive' than when I ride my Goldwing.
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# Andrew Baker 2011-03-07 14:12
I always wave... I have noticed a similar trend with american brand bikes. However, its even worse when I wave at a Goldwing rider. I ride a Yamaha sportbike and Triumph Speed Triple. To the best of my knowledge, in my 12+ years riding, I've never had a Goldwing rider return my wave.
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# Sven 2011-03-07 20:38
I have seen riders who were just too cool to wave, and they were uniformly HD riders. I have seen riders who were so prone to waving that they did it while in a turn or other inappropriate situation. People around here (Memphis region) wave a lot...people in other places just seemed to wave less. The ones I wonder about the most are the ones who wave at night, when you cant even see them. Despite that waving is actually kinda silly, I enjoy it, and the ones that bug me worst are the HD people who won't wave at non HD bikes. It's bad enough you are defining yourself by a brand name, but do you really have to check all positive personality traits when you climb on it. It's like refusing to talk to someone wearing the wrong brand of underwear. No product will make you cool.
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# Harry2 2011-03-10 15:23
I always wave. American, non-american bike who cares. If it got two (sometimes three) wheels, it will have a wave from me. Unless I am making an odd turn or requires my both hands to operate the bike.
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# Terry Monahan 2011-03-11 00:51
I always wave as a courtesy to my fellow bikers,no matter what they may be riding.And besides,most times on the highway going 85 mph,it's sometimes hard to tell what the guy coming the opposite way is riding,but to me it doesnt matter.I ride a Yamaha Road Star/Midnite Star,and i have to say i feel that all of us on two wheels are brothers.I've almost never not had a wave go unreturned.There are times when i may be caught up in traffic or making a turn and am unable to return a wave,but my two wheeled brothers get that.In my experience,i've actually found the crotch rocket riders are the most guilty of not returning a wave...
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# Bill Cain 2011-03-16 03:25
Harley riders seem to return more waves when I'm on my Valkyrie than my Ducati.

That said, the Herley riders seem to like my Ducati more when it's parked.
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# Brandon 2011-03-16 09:57
Last time I waved at a Harley rider he shot me a bird and I ride a Buell. It seems the adventure guys wave more than anyone.
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# Olav 2011-03-16 16:53
I've just got to the point that I don't bother waving to anybody on a cruiser not wearing a helmet. Seems they are the ones who don't wave back.
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# Mick Dee 2011-03-16 17:54
That sounds about right, about half of the HD riders waved back in my experience, I ride a Ducati.

But, none of the scooter riders ever returned a wave. Those on the 50cc must think they are above the rest! =)
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# Da Grump 2011-03-21 12:26
I ride a Harley superglide and a Suzuki DR650.
My findings..first I am not a Harley purist. I love to ride. I wear a full face helmet. Many cruiser types including Harleys do not wave at helmeted riders. About 1/2 the sport bikes wave back. When I am on my DR650, i feel like I have some contagious disease they you will catch if you wave back unless you are on an Adventure type bike or dual sport. Cruisers, sport bikes, dont care what brand just looke the other way. So, yes there are Harley hard asses out there, but, I think your experiment needs some modification.
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# Jason Mills 2011-03-24 15:14
I always waive as well. I do get a little P.O'd at times when riders don't return the waive. I'm tempted to, on the next non-waive, turn around, and follow the guy to his next stop. Then walk up, give him a big hug and say "Love You Man". Then get back on my bike and drive away.
Something else I've noticed here in MN where the riding is seasonal - people tend to waive more in the beginning of the season.
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# tall rob 2011-03-26 00:14
I wave at everone when im not begining or in the middle of of turn. The guys hat I see that don't return my waves or even my tiny finger waves are the guys in what I call the Hollywood HD or that Canadian company that makes choppers where they are more concerned on how the look.,Screw'em I say...........If they are on the side of the road. If they dont wave i won't help them. BTW I carry a full tool case, patch kit and air pump. In then last 3 years ive helped 5 harly owners that were stranded
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# Macnort 2011-06-16 09:45
I´m from Brazil and have hire a Harley in Honolulu for a 1 day ride. I didn´t know about the wave, but after some riders gave me I presumed that is a greeting and reply in same way.
I guess that is because a lot foreigner riders hire a Harley and don´t know about that signal, is the motive for that statistic.
Waves to All.
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# Kantana owner 2012-05-13 16:48
The problem with Harley riders is they are so stuck on the "Harley attitude" They all think they are bad asses for some reason. They are always "Pro American" you know, like buy American this, and Pro union that crap, when more than have of them are laid off cause their awesome unions don't have work for them. Oh, by the way I am an veteran of the 82nd Airborne division so don't think I don't care about American things cause I am as American as they get. Any who , they over pay for their Harley's when they could have bought a Yamaha V Star which looks the same as their bike but about 20 grand less. So that about sums it up. Harley riders are stuck on themselves1 They always have been and always will
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